Re: alternatives to java byte-codes

David Chase <chase@world.std.com>
15 Feb 1999 23:25:10 -0500

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Re: alternatives to java byte-codes dgay@barnowl.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Gay) (1999-02-03)
Re: alternatives to Java byte-codes jerpat@iastate.edu (1999-02-05)
Re: alternatives to Java byte-codes kistler@ics.uci.edu (Thomas Kistler) (1999-02-07)
Re: alternatives to Java byte-codes Paulo@PlanetSmart.com (Paulo Machado) (1999-02-10)
Re: alternatives to java byte-codes jcea@argo.es (Jesus Cea Avion) (1999-02-10)
Re: alternatives to java byte-codes niall@cuc.ucc.ie (Niall Dalton) (1999-02-12)
Re: alternatives to java byte-codes chase@world.std.com (David Chase) (1999-02-15)
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From: David Chase <chase@world.std.com>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:25:10 -0500
Organization: NaturalBridge, LLC
References: 99-01-096 99-02-006 99-02-009 99-02-053
Keywords: optimize
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> David Gay wrote:
> > My gut feeling is that trees
> > make some transfor- mations harder, especially if the tree is close to
> > the language's source code.


Niall Dalton wrote:
> Well, trees in general are common in compilers, for example expression
> trees as an internal representation for functional languages and you may
> generate locally optimal code using Sethi-Ullman numbers from an
> appropiate tree representation of a program.


Yes, but. What I have seen over the years is that the syntactically
supplied trees are not necessarily the ones that you want to use. For
instance, in the case of C, C++, and Java, the use of expression
operators and comma operators gunks up your syntax trees with ordering
constraints, and they may not even be the largest possible trees. It
is a relatively simple exercise (well, I thought it was simple) to
walk the instructions of a basic block and construct a
largest-possible true expression tree before doing your Sethi-Ullman
numbering.


David Chase
NaturalBridge LLC


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