Re: C arithmetic, was Software proofs, was Are there different

Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net>
Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:11:31 +0100

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From: Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:11:31 +0100
Organization: Compilers Central
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Posted-Date: 10 Feb 2023 13:18:46 EST
In-Reply-To: 23-02-033

On 2/8/23 11:19 AM, Anton Ertl wrote:
> With a ones-complement or two's-complement mantissa the hidden bit
> would just have the same sign as the sign bit, so this trick is not
> tied to sign-magnitude representation.


Please explain the provenience or purpose of that hidden bit with
integral numbers. How can integral values be *normalized* so that a
previously required bit can be hidden? Sign extension to a higher number
of bits does not increase the value or accuracy of an integral number.


DoDi
[He said "mantissa", so it's floating point. I've certainly seen scaled
integer arithmetic, but normalized integers other than +/- zero in systems
with signed zeros seems unlikely. -John]


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