Re: C arithmetic, was Software proofs, was Are there different

anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Sat, 11 Feb 2023 22:34:25 GMT

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From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 22:34:25 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> writes:
>[I am not aware of any hidden bit formats before IEEE


The VAX FP formats have a hidden bit
<https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nssdc/formats/VAXFloatingPoint.htm>, and
AFAIK VAX F and G are pretty close to IEEE binary32 and binary64.


According to
<https://home.kpn.nl/jhm.bonten/computers/bitsandbytes/wordsizes/hidbit.htm>
already Zuse used a hidden bit in FP numbers on his machines (1940s
and 1950s).


--
M. Anton Ertl
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/
[Oh, right, I forgot about Zuse. He invented a lot of stuff that other
people reinvented later. Squinting at my VAX architecture handbook, the
formats have the same layout as IEEE but the exponents are excess 128 and
1024 rather than 127 and 1023 and there's no infinities or denormals. -John]


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