Re: New assembly language instructions to support OO languages?

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From: nmm1@cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.compilers,comp.arch
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:37:17 +0000 (GMT)
Organization: University of Cambridge
References: 08-12-014 08-12-016
Keywords: architecture, history
Posted-Date: 05 Dec 2008 10:19:17 EST

bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On 4 Dec, 18:09, "Tony" <t...@my.net> wrote:
>> To me, it seems like "reducing everything to a function" may be a bit
>> dated given that OO languages are the thing nowadays. Can anyone
>> imagine any new potential assembly language instructions that would
>> make implemention of OO languages easier? (Not just necessarily the
>> function thing, but anything).


I doubt it. Code generation isn't the problem with those.


>I don't know about new ones, but how about resurrecting some old ones?
>At least two different computers of the 1960's had an 'indirect' bit
>at the high end of an address word, meaning that it pointed to another
>word containing an address. In its turn, that might have the high bit
>set, etcetera. An instruction to load a datum or an address would
>follow such a chain of indirections until it reached the
>actually-wanted item. I know this was very good for Prolog
>implementations.
>
>[Indirect addressing was quite common through the 1970s. The PDP-11
>and VAX had it. But I gather that it's a challenge to implement
>efficiently, and if the machine has a lot of registers, it doesn't gain
>you much. -John]


Yes. It's more a programmer convenience than anything else. Provided
that the chain is required to be short, it is functionally equivalent
to just using a hidden register for the intermediate address. Unlike
the multi-address instructions, it does not require simultaneous
access to two cache lines, so doesn't need special memory support.




Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



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