Re: A way to prevent buffer overflow exploits?

Shriram Krishnamurthi <shriram@cs.rice.edu>
16 Aug 1998 22:43:46 -0400

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From: Shriram Krishnamurthi <shriram@cs.rice.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 16 Aug 1998 22:43:46 -0400
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
References: 98-07-242 98-07-246 98-08-014 98-08-029 98-08-081
Keywords: C, practice, comment

eodell@pobox.com (Eric O'Dell) writes:


> [Buffer overflows = programmer laziness, pure and simple.]


> IMHO, if this is a problem for your organization, it's a sign that
> your hiring practices, and not your programming tools, are at fault.


You should read the fuzz-testing papers that Barton Miller and
Co. from Wisconsin have published in CACM. I believe the original
came out in 1990, and a follow-up in about 1995. It appears that even
the mightiest of employers in this industry -- the ones supposedly
with the smart programmers -- have, ah, faulty hiring practices.


'shriram
[Were those the experiments that showed that nearly every program that
came with Unix crashed when fed random input? Pretty sad. -John]
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