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Toon Moene <toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
14 Jan 1997 20:20:46 -0500

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From: Toon Moene <toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:20:46 -0500
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
References: 97-01-045 97-01-065 97-01-078
Keywords: Fortran, performance, GCC

Craig Burley <burley@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote:


>The good news is that we're beginning to teach the gcc back end about
>these new constructs -- at least, for g77, we're in the
>experimental/development phase for some of them.


>A minor example, that I believe rarely amounts to much in practice


Sorry, Craig, if I'd seen your post earlier, I would have pointed this out:


There is a very simple, convincing example of the sort of optimisation the
current backend does not apply, whereas it will when John Carr's
[jfc@mit.edu] new alias analysis code is implemented.


Consider the (dumbed down) saxpy routine from BLAS/LAPACK:




            subroutine saxpy(n,sa,sx,incx,sy,incy)
            real sx(*),sy(*),sa
            integer i,incx,incy,ix,iy,n
            if(n.le.0)return
            if (sa .eq. 0.0) return
            ix = 1
            iy = 1
            if(incx.lt.0)ix = (-n+1)*incx + 1
            if(incy.lt.0)iy = (-n+1)*incy + 1
            do 10 i = 1,n
                sy(iy) = sy(iy) + sa*sx(ix)
                ix = ix + incx
                iy = iy + incy
      10 continue
            end


The problem here, for the gcc backend, is that the arguments to the
Fortran routine are implemented in g77 as "call-by-reference",
i.e. pointers to their values in memory are passed. The C semantics
doesn't promise anything about aliasing of pointers 1); therefore, the
backend _currently_ assumes that the store into sy invalidates the
values of sa, incx and incy in the loop. Not only does this mean that
those values have to be retrieved from memory at every loop turn, it
also means that the normal strength reduction on induction variables
(ix, iy) can't take place, because the backend can't prove that incx
and incy are loop invariants.


This is all solved by John's work ...


Hope this makes the discussion somewhat less academic ...


1) I proposed, about a year ago, to Craig to apply copy-in-copy-out semantics
      (that are allowed by the Fortran Standard) to scalar arguments, which
      would have solved *this* too, but at the expense of complication of the
      Fortran fronted. There are other optimisations possible due to Fortran's
      "overlap" restrictions that are not dealt with *that* approach, however).


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