Re: Newbie question: What is the importance for a compiler to be able to compile itself?

torbenm@pc-003.diku.dk (Torben =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C6gidius?= Mogensen)
Wed, 20 May 2009 12:25:39 +0200

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From: torbenm@pc-003.diku.dk (Torben =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C6gidius?= Mogensen)
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:25:39 +0200
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Copenhagen
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Posted-Date: 20 May 2009 10:01:07 EDT

armencho@gmail.com writes:




> What is the importance with a compiler that is able to compile itself?


The short answer is "it's not". As long as you write your compiler in
a language that allows you to run it on the platforms you need, you
should choose the implementation language for ease of writing a
compiler rather than for being the same as the language that your
compiler compiles. This is especially true if the lnaguage is new --
the first compiler or interpreter needs to be written in another
language.


That said, there are some reasons why it is sometimes useful to write
a compiler in its own subject language:


  - If the compiler evaluates constant expressions, it can be easier to
      ensure that these compile-time evaluations yield the same result as
      run-time evaluations.


  - As others have mentioned, self-application is a large nontrivial
      test that you don't need to write new programs for and where the
      result is easy to check. It is, however, not a rigorous and
      certainly not an exhaustive test.


  - Once your compiler is complete, you don't have to rely on other
      people's compilers. There is, certainly, a personal satisfaction
      to this, and you are less likely to be hurt if the vendor of the
      compiler you use suddenly folds or changes things that make your
      compiler stop working.


But there are, certainly, disadvantages too:


  - The language you want to compile may be horrible for writing
      compilers. C is a good example of this (in spite of the many
      bootstrapped compilers for C).


  - Using the compiler itself for compiling your compiler may make
      subtle bugs be undetected. For example, if you have misunderstood
      a certain language feature that you use in your compiler, the
      compiler will compile it as you expect it to work, so you get the
      result you expect. Using another compiler will give you an
      unexpected result, so you will discover your misunderstanding
      earlier. Ideally, you should compile your compiler using several
      different existing compilers.


  - If you get a wrong result when applying your compiler on a
      particular language construct, the error might be in either the
      part of your compiler that handles this language construct or in
      the part of the compiler that compiles this part of the compiler.


  - A newly designed language needs, initially, a compiler or
      interpreter written in an existing language. You can make this
      without optimisation and with missing features, and use this to
      perform the bootstrap of a compiler written in its own language,
      but it is extra work.




Torben



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