Re: HLL syntax & structure suited to rapid compilation?

"Marco van de Voort" <marcov@toad.stack.nl>
24 Aug 2002 11:58:12 -0400

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From: "Marco van de Voort" <marcov@toad.stack.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 24 Aug 2002 11:58:12 -0400
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
References: 02-07-098 02-07-121 02-07-128 02-08-005 02-08-024 02-08-054 02-08-061
Keywords: optimize
Posted-Date: 24 Aug 2002 11:58:12 EDT

Joachim Durchholz wrote:
> Marco van de Voort wrote:
>> Tzvetan Mikov wrote:
>>>I got pretty angry when I saw things like:
>>> mov eax, ebx
>>> mov ebx, eax
>>>in the "optimized" code.
>>
>> But how did the overal performance differ? Everybody can single out some
>> thing that was missed by the peephole optimiser (and maybe only because the
>> construct just before or after it was "special"), but the overall code
>> quality matters, and can (IMHO) be only done by benchmarking/profiling real
>> applications.
>
> I haven't done any benchmarks, but code like the above was scattered
> all over the place. About 20% of instructions were such store/reload
> pairs, at least for the code that I looked at. I found this appalling.


I checked Delphi's code, and it doesn't seem that bad. That TP/BP
isn't optimizing is wellknown, but Delphi should be.


> Again, this is all written from a years-old perspective. I have used
> Borland Pascal, but I never encountered any serious performance
> problems with Borland products afterwards (I don't know whether that's
> because the code generators improved or whether processors got
> faster).


I think you meant TP/BP, and I assumed Delphi (because you wrote
32-bit instructions above).


Case closed :-)


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