Re: a newbie's dumb question...

"Joachim Durchholz" <joachim_d@gmx.de>
23 Jul 2001 02:19:24 -0400

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From: "Joachim Durchholz" <joachim_d@gmx.de>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: 23 Jul 2001 02:19:24 -0400
Organization: Compilers Central
References: 01-07-094
Keywords: assembler
Posted-Date: 23 Jul 2001 02:19:24 EDT

Sunny <explosion78@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just strated to use lex and yacc to make a compiler for PICmicro
> assembler. I have gathered enough materials for lex and yacc over the
> internet. But I still don't have a slight idea of making a compiler
> though. I've sort of done the lex part, creating token and stuff. But
> I can't do the yacc part yet.


If your assembler is the usual tabular layout, parsing it is so trivial
that you don't need a parser generator like yacc.


> A friend of mine has done it for 68HC11. His compiler reads the whole
> code first and stack it, then finds any errors. Is it a good way? Or
> is there another way??


It's a trade-off. That way, he has all information readily available
(good if you want to report errors like "JMP target appears nowhere"
or similar nonlocal stuff). Uses up more memory, could become a slight
problem if the assembler code is huge (e.g. assembly generated by a
compiler), or if the compilation happens on a very small machine.
(Memory was more important just a few years ago, but it's usually not
a serious problem anymore.)


> And the errors.. I spent a lot of hours to seek any clues about
> error-checking. I found one compiler which had over 200 error
> messages... I can only think of branch range errors, labeling errors
> and nothing else. Can any of you give me some ideas??


Write a parser that identifies the various columns of the assembly; the
error cases will fall out naturally.
Finding the error cases is easy; printing understandable messages might
be more of a challenge.


> Finally, parsers. I sort of understand that it's hierarchical and it
> eventually comes down to the token that the lex makes. Is that all
> there is to it? So am I just need to find the types of grammars (eg
> opcode label, label opcode number)??


Essentially, yes.
Parsers are much more important if you have languages with nested
structures. For assembly, there isn't much to them. (Unless you have a
sophisticated macro processor in your assembler. Macro language can be
complicated enough to warrant using a parser generator.)


Regards,
Joachim


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