|Re: Compiler complexity (was: VAX Always Uses Fewer Instructions) email@example.com (1988-06-17)|
|Re: Compiler complexity (was: VAX Always Uses Fewer Instructions) samples@dougfir.Berkeley.EDU (1988-06-20)|
|Re: Compiler complexity (was: VAX Always Uses Fewer Instructions) firstname.lastname@example.org (1988-06-21)|
|Date:||Tue, 21 Jun 88 01:26:26 EDT|
|In-Reply-To:||your article <1117@ima.ISC.COM>|
> In article <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org (Jim Giles) writes:
> > Do modern compilers for CISC make good
> > use of the variety in the instruction set?
> > J. Giles
> The current state of the art in retargetable code generators is such
> that the addressing modes of CISC machines can be easily handled
> (with the possible exeption of addressing mode with side-effects).
> Complex instructions like the VAX polynomial instruction and string
> move instructions are still problematic.
One thing I noticed on a VMS machine once that most UNIX hacks wouldn't see
is that languages such as PL/I and PASCAL with the internal strings and
nested subroutines made far better use of the VAX instruction set than the
Have any RISC studies been done with languages with more abstractions than C?
Daryl Monge UUCP: ...!ihnp4!ihcae!daryl
AT&T CIS: 72717,65
Bell Labs, Naperville, Ill AT&T 312-979-3603
[For the IBM 801 work, their working language was PL.8, the 80% of PL/I that
they found useful. As far as I know, the conclusions they came to were much
the same as the other RISC efforts, even though unlike many of the other
groups they from the first included some of the best compiler people in the
world. They have since grafted C and Pascal front ends on to the PL.8 compiler
and they apparently produce good code, too, though some of their early
misunderstandings about the semantics of C were pretty amazing. -John]
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