Re: Historical Implementations to Garbage Collectors

"Robin Vowels" <robin51@dodo.com.au>
Wed, 21 May 2014 18:37:33 +1000

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From: "Robin Vowels" <robin51@dodo.com.au>
Newsgroups: comp.compilers
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:37:33 +1000
Organization: Compilers Central
References: 14-05-001 14-05-009 14-05-012 14-05-017 14-05-021
Keywords: storage, history
Posted-Date: 21 May 2014 20:13:09 EDT

From: "George Neuner" <gneuner2@comcast.net>
> Our esteemed moderator wrote:


>>[You don't need anything that fancy for strings to overlap. With null
>>terminated readonly C-style strings, you can combine "storage" and
>>"rage" and "age". Wih strings represented by a pointer and length,
>>they can overlap anywhere.
>
> Yes. Tricks like that were used frequently in memory constrained
> implementations.


I wouldn't call it a "trick". It's a carefully-planned algorithm.


> Pointer:length pairs permit multiple use of substrings, but don't
> permit constructing a new string from arbitrary pieces of existing
> ones. The tree representation can permit completely arbitrary
> substring sharing.


The overheads of that would be intolerable. The address-length
pair is simple to use, can be passed easily as an argument
(and returned easily from a function), and there is -- essentially --
no overhead until the dynamic string space gets used up,
after which garbage collection is necessary.


> Of course, given the small amount of memory available to early
> implementations, tree representation of strings would have been
> unworkable.


Even with lots of memory, not really a proposition on account of
overheads. With lots of memory, the garbage collection routine
might not even be called.
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