|Regular grammar from CFG? firstname.lastname@example.org (Lorin Netsch) (2004-09-03)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? email@example.com (Eric Bodden) (2004-09-07)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? firstname.lastname@example.org (2004-09-07)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? brosgol@worldDOTstd.com (Ben Brosgol) (2004-09-08)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? email@example.com (2004-09-08)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? firstname.lastname@example.org (Friedrich Neurauter) (2004-09-08)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? email@example.com (Carl Cerecke) (2004-09-08)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? firstname.lastname@example.org (2004-09-13)|
|Re: Regular grammar from CFG? email@example.com (2004-09-13)|
|From:||"Friedrich Neurauter" <firstname.lastname@example.org>|
|Date:||8 Sep 2004 12:05:49 -0400|
|Posted-Date:||08 Sep 2004 12:05:49 EDT|
"Eric Bodden" <email@example.com> schrieb
> On 3 Sep 2004 12:42:40 -0400, Lorin Netsch wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me how to determine if a given CFG can be represented
> > as a regular grammar?
> I believe there can be no way to do so, since I think, there is no way
> to convert a grammar that is more than regular to one that is regular.
> That is due to the Chomsky hierarchy. Type-3 grammars (regular ones)
> are strictly weaker then Type-2 and so forth.
> Regular grammars allow rules of the types
> A -> aB
> A -> a
This is not quite correct. Take a look at the definitions of left linear,
right linear, strongly left linear and strongly right linear grammars
> Now just imagine the possible productions of a grammar that is not yet
> - A -> B This cannot be represented by a rule of the ones above.
But this is a so called unit production which can be easily removed from
any grammar without changing the generated language.
> - A -> Ba The same.
In a left linear grammar productions like this are allowed and yet left
linear grammars generate regular languages
> ... and so forth.
> So in my eyes either a grammar is already regular or it is not. And if it
> is not it will never be. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
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